Silver Wager Cup - Maker’s Info Needed

Hello

Would anyone be able to shed some light on the maker (R.C) of this silver Wager cup (c.1904)?


Many thanks in advance,
Anthony

They usually originate in Germany, but the RC suggests René Courtin, French, about 1882. Can’t find a photo, but his maker’s mark is described as “the count’s crown.” It’s coin silver, not sterling.

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This mark is attributed here to the Hanau company J D Schleissner & Söhne and here to Georg Roth & Co, also of Hanau.

800 is a more precise standard than “coin silver” which can vary according to the whim of the maker.

Phil

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Hi Jeff, I hadn’t considered that the cup may have been made outside Germany which just adds to my interest. Will research René Courtin’s work, thank you for the information.

Kind regards,
Anthony

Hi Phil, thank you for the references. One of the images (s475) for J. D. Schleissner & Söhne certainly looks a close match to me, will try to locate their 1910 category and other works for additional examples.

Thank you again, your assistance is very much appreciated.

Kind regards,
Anthony

I agree, the Hanau identification seems to be the best, and it makes the most sense.

I spotted this, which certainly looks like the same mark:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Hallmarks/comments/16mxwwz/can_anyone_help_with_this_possible_hallmark_rc/

That discussion also eventually circled back to Schleissner.

The “RC” is a bit of a puzzle - fits better with Roth, but German words that start with “C” are rather uncommon, and are often borrowed from other languages.

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Thank you Jeff for the link and additional information.